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		<title>Epic Fail Pastors Conference &#8211; April 14-16</title>
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Previous Post &#8211; Missional-Monastic Spectrum

When J.R. Briggs informed me about the Epic Fail Pastors Conference, I jealous- jealous because I wouldn&#8217;t be able to attend myself and jealous that I didn&#8217;t come up with this brilliant and long over-due idea!  Here is what it is about, in a nut shell:



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<p>When <a title="J.R. Briggs" href="http://www.jrbriggs.com/">J.R. Briggs</a> informed me about the <a title="Epic Fail Pastors Conference" href="http://www.epicfailpastorsconference.com/index.html">Epic Fail Pastors Conference</a>, I jealous- jealous because I wouldn&#8217;t be able to attend myself and jealous that I didn&#8217;t come up with this brilliant and long over-due idea!  Here is what it is about, in a nut shell:</p>
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<p>The idea for this conference came from two sources: A <a style="color: #0000ff;" href="http://www.jrbriggs.com/epic-fail-church-conference/08/">blog post from J.R. Briggs</a>, a pastor at Renew Community in Lansdale, Pa and the wildly popular site <a href="http://www.epicfail.com/">www.epicfail.com</a>.</p>
<p>A few dangerous questions were asked:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px; padding-right: 30px;">-What if we offered a space that is gutsy, hopeful, courageously vulnerable for pastors to let go of the burden to be a Super Pastor?</p>
<p>-What if we could hold an event that was free from the thrills and frills of other pastors conferences?</p>
<p>-What if we came together as epic failures and sought not successful models or how-to’s but instead celebrated faithfulness in ministry because of the reality of Jesus?</p>
<p>-What if we were reminded that we’re not responsible for being ‘successful’ in ministry, but we are responsible for being faithful to the calling that God has laid out for us – regardless of the outcome?</p>
<p>-What if we had a conference that was not led not by famous pastors who are household names, but by scandalously ordinary ministers and leaders who are faithfully attempting to join with God – even in the midst of glaring obscurity and anonymity?</p>
<p>That <a href="http://www.jrbriggs.com/epic-fail-church-conference/08/">post</a> attracted more hits than any other post that J.R. had written in seven years. People from all over the world began contacting J.R. through the blog, email, phone and text messages saying, ‘I’m in! Where do I sign up?” We knew we had struck a nerve. We were on to something significant.</p>
<p>This excited us and freaked us out.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a title="Epic Fail Pastors Conference" href="http://www.epicfailpastorsconference.com/index.html">Check out the site for more details.  SIGN UP &amp; GO!</a></p>
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		<title>Pastor in Post-Christendom &#8211; Fitch &amp; Nelson (3)</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2010 14:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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Previous Post &#8211; Fitch &#38; Nelson &#8211; Part 2
The third &#38; final installment of the conversation between David Fitch (Northern Seminary) and Gary Nelson (Tyndale University College and Seminary)  is up.  Here they discuss the realities of pastoring in a post-Christendom context.  They have some great insights, so check them out:

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<p>The third &amp; final installment of the conversation between <a title="David Fitch" href="http://www.reclaimingthemission.com/">David Fitch</a> (<a title="Northern Seminary" href="http://www.seminary.edu/"><em>Northern Seminary</em></a>) and Gary Nelson (<a title="Tyndale University &amp; Seminary" href="http://www.tyndale.ca/"><em>Tyndale University College and Seminary</em></a>)  is up.  Here they discuss the realities of pastoring in a post-Christendom context.  They have some great insights, so check them out:</p>
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<p><a href="http://vimeo.com/15958143">Pastors in Post-Christendom</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user643124">Bill Kinnon</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
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		<title>Of Pastors, Priesthood &amp; Power</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 03:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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Previous Post &#8211; Be The (Climate) Change &#8211; Blog Action Day 2009

My friend John Frye, author of the excellent &#8220;Jesus The Pastor: Leading Others In The Character &#38; Power Of Christ&#8221; and &#8220;Out of Print: A Novel&#8221;, has been blogging up a storm lately around the topic of pastors, leadership and the priesthood of all [...]]]></description>
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<p>My friend <a title="John Frye's blog" href="http://www.jesustheradicalpastor.com/">John Frye</a>, author of the excellent <a title="Amazon - Jesus the Pastor" href="http://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Pastor-John-W-Frye/dp/031024269X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1196359349&amp;sr=8-1">&#8220;Jesus The Pastor: Leading Others In The Character &amp; Power Of Christ&#8221;</a> and <a title="Out of Print - A Novel" href="http://www.outofprintnovel.com/products-page">&#8220;Out of Print: A Novel&#8221;</a>, has been blogging up a storm lately around the topic of pastors, leadership and the priesthood of all believers (so far with <a title="Part 1" href="http://www.jesustheradicalpastor.com/pastors-and-the-new-organic-gospel-magic">Part 1</a>, <a title="Part 2" href="http://www.jesustheradicalpastor.com/styrofoam-theology-part-2-some-history">Part 2</a>, <a title="Part 3" href="http://www.jesustheradicalpastor.com/styrofoam-theology-part-3-authority">Part 3</a> &amp; <a title="Part 4" href="http://www.jesustheradicalpastor.com/styrofoam-theology-part-4-the-bible">Part 4</a>).   John, himself a pastor, is down-right angry with some of the talk he has heard in some emerging/missional/evangelical circles of late, where the role of pastor seems to be treated as the new leper of ecclesiology.  He cites critique from some in the organic church community, stating:</p>
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<li><em>&#8220;I have noted a mantra from the organic church sympathizers. Any critique of their priesthood-of-all-believers, no-hierarchal-structure, anti-clergy/laity split, all-are-leaders-and-thus-none-are-leaders theology receives this: &#8216;Well, show me from the New Testament anyone with a modern pastor job description.&#8217; I want to respond, &#8216;Show me your thorough-going American egalitarian, democratic, consensual decision-making polity in the New Testament.&#8217;  It just ain’t there.&#8221;</em></li>
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<p>John goes on the very clearly defend the role and calling of pastor as not only Biblical, but reflective of Christ&#8217;s own example.  Anyone who knows me will know that I often talk about organic structures, am suspicious of hierarchy, oppose a clergy-laity divide that places the administration of the sacraments in the hands of the privileged few, etc.  And yet, find myself deeply resonating with John while simultaneously standing by the previous sentiments.  While some might think my defence of the role of pastor stems from my recent move to become one, this is not the case.  I am convinced that correctives of the organic church movement are essential, but that there is a trend that is taking things too far.</p>
<p>I do not believe that a pastor is meant to be in hierarchy over the local church community.  Pastoring is often about leadership, but I believe that leadership is necessarily hierarchical.  Too often, as we seek to dismantle the hierarchical structures of power that have become all too common in the church, we make the equally devastating move of seeking equality through uniformity.  This shift is most often defended by referencing the priesthood of all believers, a fair reversal of sacramental power structures, but one that should not be confused with the unique vocation of pastor.  Our previous unfortunate confusing/blending of the priestly and pastoral roles not only resulted in pastors being endowed with more power and privilege than ever intended, but also contributed to throwing the pastoral baby out with the bathwater of hierarchy.</p>
<p>Our <a title="Little Flowers Community" href="http://littleflowers.ca/">Little Flowers Community</a> is very intentional in moving towards functioning under community discernment, even a communal hermeneutic- that is, we form our understanding and practice of faith by moving together, with the guidance of the Holy Spirit and the in-formation of Scripture.  In that process, my role as pastor has been critical, just as the unique spiritual gifts of others have been essential.  It is one among many equally valuable giftings that make up the necessary diversity reflective of Christ&#8217;s Body.  Does my role give me more power and/or authority?  Without question, at this stage in our community development, it does.  However, it is not the power or authority that make the role abusive, but how that power and authority is exercised.</p>
<p>Again and again, John turns us back to Christ, and with good reason.  Jesus had stunning authority of every kind, yet His life and ministry is characterized by humility, service and self-sacrifice even unto death on the Cross.  His example does not deny or reject power and authority, but rather teaches us to radically embrace it and subvert them.  As we do this, uniquely embracing our individual giftings and vocations, we are formed together into a unity born from diversity, transformed into Him in Whose Image we were created, the very Body of Christ.</p>
<p>As devastating as the use of power to force or demand some form of unity, so too will denying the unique gifts and callings within the Church disintegrate His Body.  Both extremes seek to avoid the difficult path of conflict and chaos that will inevitably emerge as each of us face the challenge of not abusing or denying our Christ-endowed authority.  Without question they are ultimately easier, but ultimately futile.  Rather, we must seek together to be humble enough to submit to the Spirit as He works through the authority of others and equally humble as we respond to His leading to walk out our own.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a title="Biblegateway - 1 Cor. 12 - NIV" href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Cor.12&amp;version=NIV"><strong><em>1 Corinthians 12</em></strong></a></p>
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