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What Kind Of Christian Are You?

Saturday, February 20th, 2010

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Recently I have come across a few comments about labels and faith.  Generally, people were declaring that they were tired of identifying as “missional Christians”, “emerging Christians” or other such names.  Why can’t we, they ask, simply call ourselves Christians?  Isn’t it enough to be a follower of Christ?  Don’t we lose sight of what is important when we take on identifiers that cloud that underlying truth?  I resonate with these questions.  I affirm the desire to be identified with Christ alone.  There is something to be said about the risk of taking on other labels in our attempt to define ourselves.  There is an important caution here that we should all keep in mind.

That being said, there can also be risk inherent of this way of thinking as well.  After all, can we really just call ourselves Christians?  On one level, of course we can.  However, if we are honest with ourselves and each other, we will have to acknowledge that these labels emerged because of very real differences.  While many of those differences need not be divisive, others are more significant, even “deal-breakers”.  To ignore those differences can recklessly expose ourselves and others to dangers.  The labels, used responsibly (and arguably they need to be used very differently than has been the norm) can serve the help us better understand each others.

There is also the great danger of arrogance in this dynamic.  Some will say “I don’t need any labels.  I am just a Christian”.  While there can be some good in that affirmation, there can be the implicit suggestion that, for those who do choose to use identifiers are somehow less Christian.  It can, intentionally or not, come across as “I am actually a Christian”, or worse, “I am more of a Christian”.  I realize that ride can be just as involved in the use of labels.  My point is just that abandoning them altogether changes very little, exchanging one set of problem for another.

While I have resisted denominational identifiers for most of my life, I have made some public and genuine statements about what kind of Christian I am.  For example, I would say that I am strongly a missional Christian, even an emerging Christian.  Now, I acknowledge that I probably just muddied the water further, requiring much more clarification as to what I mean.  I am sure there are those who identify with both of those ethos that would not like to count me in their company (and some I would rather not be identified with).  Despite this, I think they can be helpful, not to mention honest.

More recently I have come to identify as a Franciscan and an Anabaptist.  Since I am neither Catholic nor Mennonite, what does this mean?  Again, they can be helpful touchstones for understanding the nature of the Christian faith I am pursuing in my life and community.  It points to emphasis and convictions and even questions that locate me more specifically in the wider community of faith and its history.  I hold to neither of these expressions absolutely.  Neither do I believe that they are the “better” expressions of Christianity.  Of course, there are obviously aspects I believe to be right in opposition to others, such as my deeply held, Biblical conviction about women in church leadership (I am for it).  However, it has more to do with my own vocation within the wider Body of Christ, both in relationship to the necessary diversity of the members of that Body and the great diversity of contexts in which that Body functions.

We can’t forget that these labels are simply tools to help us better understand and relate to one another.  Yes, that understanding might very well lead to a radical shift (or end) of certain relationships.  That is a tragic, but sometime necessary reality of sin.  More often, though, if we are willing to take the time and understand and learn from each other, we- and by we, I refer to that same Body I referred to earlier- will gain so very much.  Like anyone who has been married will tell you, the very differences that bring the most conflicts are also the places were our hearts can be most transformed.

Some talk about abandoning even the word “Christian”, loaded as it is with such dark history and division.  These are the scars on the hands and feet and side of the Body to which we belong.  We do not resolve the failures of sin by ignore them, denying them or even distancing ourselves from them.  They are part of who we are, eternal reminders.  And through His love and grace, they can become symbols of hope and new life.

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Interview with The Hopeful Skeptic

Wednesday, February 10th, 2010

Previous Post – The Prodigal & the Attractional Church

I first came across Nick Fiedler as I dove headlong into the emerging church conversation in the blogosphere.  While I enjoyed his writing, it was the podcast he shared with Josh Brown that I loved.  They were down to earth, regular guys who had the same questions (and sense of humor) as me.  The Nick & Josh Podcast has continued to be an excellent source of information, conversation and truly diverse content.  So when I saw that Nick had written a book, I was excited (even more so because it was with IVPress’s Likewise Books imprint, which has become something of a favorite for me).

Here’s a brief bio of Nick to catch you up to speed:

Nicholas Fiedler is the co-creator of The Nick and Josh Podcast. He has a degree in English and has worked as a World Religions teacher, a Youth Worship Director, a Senior Credit Manager, at a Skydiving Company editing Videos, writing, and working for Apple. Most importantly though, he has worked with Josh Brown to figure out how to get in conversations with some top thinkers and record them. Nick has church experience in that he worked with youth and music for about 6 years. He has worked and been in many faith expressions and now helps with cohorts and podcasts anywhere he happens to be but does not have a church affiliation. He and his wife Leslie are world travelers, but are now in Atlanta, Georgia for a bit. Nick blogs, speaks, creates music, throws parties, buys drinks, and challenges. He is interested in technology and post-christian thought. In 2009 he wrote a book called The Hopeful Skeptic, IVP published it. He blogs at thehopefulskeptic.com.

Nick’s aptly named book, “The Hope Skeptic”, recounts his journey (both spiritual and physical) around the world as he engaged with questions of faith and uncertainty in an honest search for an identity he felt lacking under the title “Christian”.  This book is inspiring, interesting and disturbing in all the best ways.  If you or someone you know is torn by who they are in respect to faith, Nick’s book is a challenging and insightful read.  You may not share his conclusions, but I am confident you will share many of his questions and glean from his bold willingness to ask them at all costs.

Here’s my brief interview with Nick about the book:

Jamie Arpin-Ricci: What inspired you to write this book?

Nick Fiedler: That is a little hard to say. There were a lot of things that I have to openly admit to about writing, such as the challenge to become a published author and the challenge to write a book. But to the point of the question that you asked, my biggest inspiration was the challenge to write a book that would push people and maybe even pull them a little too.

JAR: Who do you most hope will read this book?  Who is most likely NOT to read this book, in your opinion?

NF: I don’t think the veterans of the ‘emerging church’ will really find new content or things that push them in this book. I didn’t write it for that crowd. I wrote it for people that haven’t been entrenched in that crowd, I wrote that for Christians living in the struggle of faith and for those who think that Christianity is complete BS. I think the people that are sick of that conversation won’t read this book. The people that I hope will read this book are Christians that wish things were different, but don’t know how to voice it. I have a friends mom that read it having no background of ‘emerging conversations’ and she was floored and bought 50 copies to send to pastors in the area. That is the sort of inspired reader is who the book is intended for.

JAR: How have your family and friends responded to this unique spiritual journey?

NF: My wife has been the biggest inspiration to me. She is further outside of Christianity then I am, and yet very encouraging to me on my journey to straddle the fence with one foot inside religion and one foot outside of it. She has been a great gauge of how someone completely unattached to the religious narrative responds to the thoughts I mention. My parent’s immediately ordered the book on the Kindle when it was released and passed it around the house over Christmas break. They are conservative Christians and have been for their whole lives. I think there are parts of the book that they would disagree with, and that’s okay. But family and friends have been supportive. I think for the people that know me the best, know at least some of my thoughts that were expressed.

JAR: Was there anything you left out of the book you wish you had included?

NF: That’s a hard question. The book is a snapshot of my ideas on Christianity over a certain period of time. I feel that it was a very accurate snapshot for that time, but I feel that some of my voice may have been muted. I am a pretty sarcastic person, I wanted to turn that down because people that don’t know me don’t always pick up my dry sarcasm. Some of that is in the book, but a lot of it I tried to tone down. So I think some of that tone got left out of the book and if you were to meet me, you make think I am a little more of an ass then I appeared to be in the book. So for the sole reason of transparency, I know that got left out of the book, and I wish that I could have put a little more of that voice in the book, but that’s hard.

JAR: With some time having past since first writing the book, has you perspective on anything in the content changed significantly?

NF: I mention in the book that there was probably a chance that I could be involved in a church again. As time has passed I feel like that is a lot less of a possibility. I don’t see myself in a church again, at least not as a member. At the same point I have been introduced to many more ‘faith communities’ since I wrote the book and my list of Communities that make me Hopeful has grown significantly. So whereas I think there is less of a chance for me to get involved in the church, I have found quite a few reason to appreciate a number of communities out there.

JAR: Do you have any other writing projects on the go?  Care to share them with us?

NF: I just finished a small bit for Dave Andrews, a person I mention in The Hopeful Skeptic. He works with a group called The Waiters Union in Brisbane, Australia. I wrote a piece for a book that he did about the Waiters Union. I am also working on a very specific list of things that I think Christians and Churches could do that would let people like myself take their guard down and take them seriously. There is also a graphic novel in the works that I hope to see available on the iPad at some time. I can’t say anything about that.   I hope that I wasn’t too vague with that one.

JAR: Tell us something unique about yourself that we would otherwise not know.

NF: I found a new passion while in New Zealand. I mentioned that I was working for a skydiving company in the book, but I didn’t mention that Skydiving as become a little bit of a passion for me. I had about 38 jumps while I was in New Zealand I became certified to skydive on my own. During that process I faced a real fear a couple times where I had to learn to trust myself and get over the fear of death itself. I could say a lot about that, in fact there could be a whole book about what I learned about myself when I was skydiving. So the short answer is that I feel I have faced a life changing experience when I learned to skydive and that has been formative in my life. Not a lot of people know that. I sort of keep that one close to the vest.

JAR: Thanks Nick.

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