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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 23:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wayne, that was my biggest complaint too when I walked out, including the thought about The Last Samurai.  Sadly, I think the decision was not made entirely out of ignorance, but what was going to make the most money.  sigh...  Thanks!

Peace,
Jamie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wayne, that was my biggest complaint too when I walked out, including the thought about The Last Samurai.  Sadly, I think the decision was not made entirely out of ignorance, but what was going to make the most money.  sigh&#8230;  Thanks!</p>
<p>Peace,<br />
Jamie</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne Park</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne Park</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 23:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well I&#039;m glad I wasn&#039;t the only one who was &quot;p&#039;ed&quot;

you mentioned in passing what was my greatest complaint, namely the socio-ethnic one; how the hero pays homage to the native who conveniently dies and then the hero becomes the king of the tribe. In his progressive thinking, Cameron isn&#039;t really all that progressive at all. And in my worldview as a Christian the biggest problem is that the hero really never gives up his power in the end.

Oh which chalks it up to another perfect comparison: The Last Samurai</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well I&#8217;m glad I wasn&#8217;t the only one who was &#8220;p&#8217;ed&#8221;</p>
<p>you mentioned in passing what was my greatest complaint, namely the socio-ethnic one; how the hero pays homage to the native who conveniently dies and then the hero becomes the king of the tribe. In his progressive thinking, Cameron isn&#8217;t really all that progressive at all. And in my worldview as a Christian the biggest problem is that the hero really never gives up his power in the end.</p>
<p>Oh which chalks it up to another perfect comparison: The Last Samurai</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 04:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Maxwell,

With Cameron&#039;s previous track record, I had little doubt that it would be a commercial success.  I agree with you that many of its critics (before it came out) are now eating their words.  I also agree with you that the quality of the film making is far superior to the average action flick, out and by far.  It is one of the most stunning films ever made.

I think I would take the critiques of the plot (which you acknowledge) a little more seriously.  It doesn&#039;t disqualify the film from being credited for its quality, but it is worth mentioning.  However, I would say that the story line was lacking, not due to a lack of creativity, but out of a very genius understanding of what sells.  A more provocative ending might have been artistically meritorious, but would have cost the bottom line.  It is business, after all.

I think people will miss an opportunity for not seeing the film in its best medium.  I am glad I got a chance.  It was a fun ride.

Peace,
Jamie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Maxwell,</p>
<p>With Cameron&#8217;s previous track record, I had little doubt that it would be a commercial success.  I agree with you that many of its critics (before it came out) are now eating their words.  I also agree with you that the quality of the film making is far superior to the average action flick, out and by far.  It is one of the most stunning films ever made.</p>
<p>I think I would take the critiques of the plot (which you acknowledge) a little more seriously.  It doesn&#8217;t disqualify the film from being credited for its quality, but it is worth mentioning.  However, I would say that the story line was lacking, not due to a lack of creativity, but out of a very genius understanding of what sells.  A more provocative ending might have been artistically meritorious, but would have cost the bottom line.  It is business, after all.</p>
<p>I think people will miss an opportunity for not seeing the film in its best medium.  I am glad I got a chance.  It was a fun ride.</p>
<p>Peace,<br />
Jamie</p>
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		<title>By: Maxwell</title>
		<link>http://www.missional.ca/2010/01/avatar-review/comment-page-1/#comment-3748</link>
		<dc:creator>Maxwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 04:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only dumb thing about Avatar is how so many highbrow critics just don&#039;t seem to get it. The comments and negativity is just so ridiculous, it&#039;s almost amusing. Before the film&#039;s release, many expected (unable to hide the glee in their scribblings) it to fail miserably because of the huge box office takings needed for the movie to reach break even point. They also chirped that while it may be technically impressive, the audience wouldn&#039;t feel for the characters etc. etc. Well, they look pretty dumb now that it&#039;s passed the $2bn mark and that so many people have been emotionally affected by the film. They might try to twist things now, making it out that it was always going to be such a big hit, but the truth is they didn&#039;t see it coming, even the cinemas themselves didn&#039;t see it coming and, backing my claim, it didn&#039;t even have an amazing start: first week&#039;s takings in the US were only half that of The Dark Knight.

Also, what really pissed me off is how these critics seem to seem unable to tell the difference in quality between Avatar and something else with a big budget with great effects like Transformers 2 which actually is pure garbage, with horrific direction. To band them all together shows they know nothing of the action genre, certainly of the modern action movie. Cameron is simply the best and most meticulous action movie director in the industry.

I&#039;ve read so many articles explaining how it&#039;s success is down to it being 3D, citing the fact that 3D sales are higher than those of regular screenings. Well, it&#039;s easy to say that when you have the actual figures in front of you, but how do you know it wouldn&#039;t still beat Titanic&#039;s box office record if it was just a 2D movie? There&#039;s nothing to disprove that if the movie was 2D-only, it would still take 90% or more of what it has actually taken. People are going to see an impressive movie, and they&#039;re electing to see it in it&#039;s most impressive format. Besides, the 3D effect just enhances what is already arguably the most visually impressive film ever made. In the same way, critics have said that the movie wouldn&#039;t have done anywhere near as well if it was just live action rather than being computer generated. Again, how do you know? Other Cameron films have been visually stunning without loads of CGI. It&#039;s not down to being CGI, it&#039;s that the CGI is so well done, so natural. The fact is that no matter how it was made, with Cameron directing and producing the movie, it was always going to be visually stunning.

So it doesn&#039;t have the best, most original plot. So it doesn&#039;t have the best dialogue. I think we all knew that before entering the cinema. Any movie with a $300m-odd production budget isn&#039;t going to be the most character-driven, dialogue-heavy film.  But it&#039;s incredible on so many levels and it does reach the audience in a way that many supposedly more thought-provoking films do not. There&#039;s nothing dumb about Avatar, it&#039;s just critics of the movie who are dumb.

As for any Guardian readers who stubbornly won&#039;t see the movie because they&#039;re so &#039;above&#039; the action genre and blindly agree with the negative critics, all I can say is that by sticking to your prejudiced, condescending, snobbish artistic high ground, you&#039;re missing out on what may be the best, most immersive cinematic, and yes, artistic, experience ever. When Alice In Wonderland comes out and replaces Avatar on the IMAX screens due to previous binding agreements, you may have missed your chance. Bravo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only dumb thing about Avatar is how so many highbrow critics just don&#8217;t seem to get it. The comments and negativity is just so ridiculous, it&#8217;s almost amusing. Before the film&#8217;s release, many expected (unable to hide the glee in their scribblings) it to fail miserably because of the huge box office takings needed for the movie to reach break even point. They also chirped that while it may be technically impressive, the audience wouldn&#8217;t feel for the characters etc. etc. Well, they look pretty dumb now that it&#8217;s passed the $2bn mark and that so many people have been emotionally affected by the film. They might try to twist things now, making it out that it was always going to be such a big hit, but the truth is they didn&#8217;t see it coming, even the cinemas themselves didn&#8217;t see it coming and, backing my claim, it didn&#8217;t even have an amazing start: first week&#8217;s takings in the US were only half that of The Dark Knight.</p>
<p>Also, what really pissed me off is how these critics seem to seem unable to tell the difference in quality between Avatar and something else with a big budget with great effects like Transformers 2 which actually is pure garbage, with horrific direction. To band them all together shows they know nothing of the action genre, certainly of the modern action movie. Cameron is simply the best and most meticulous action movie director in the industry.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read so many articles explaining how it&#8217;s success is down to it being 3D, citing the fact that 3D sales are higher than those of regular screenings. Well, it&#8217;s easy to say that when you have the actual figures in front of you, but how do you know it wouldn&#8217;t still beat Titanic&#8217;s box office record if it was just a 2D movie? There&#8217;s nothing to disprove that if the movie was 2D-only, it would still take 90% or more of what it has actually taken. People are going to see an impressive movie, and they&#8217;re electing to see it in it&#8217;s most impressive format. Besides, the 3D effect just enhances what is already arguably the most visually impressive film ever made. In the same way, critics have said that the movie wouldn&#8217;t have done anywhere near as well if it was just live action rather than being computer generated. Again, how do you know? Other Cameron films have been visually stunning without loads of CGI. It&#8217;s not down to being CGI, it&#8217;s that the CGI is so well done, so natural. The fact is that no matter how it was made, with Cameron directing and producing the movie, it was always going to be visually stunning.</p>
<p>So it doesn&#8217;t have the best, most original plot. So it doesn&#8217;t have the best dialogue. I think we all knew that before entering the cinema. Any movie with a $300m-odd production budget isn&#8217;t going to be the most character-driven, dialogue-heavy film.  But it&#8217;s incredible on so many levels and it does reach the audience in a way that many supposedly more thought-provoking films do not. There&#8217;s nothing dumb about Avatar, it&#8217;s just critics of the movie who are dumb.</p>
<p>As for any Guardian readers who stubbornly won&#8217;t see the movie because they&#8217;re so &#8216;above&#8217; the action genre and blindly agree with the negative critics, all I can say is that by sticking to your prejudiced, condescending, snobbish artistic high ground, you&#8217;re missing out on what may be the best, most immersive cinematic, and yes, artistic, experience ever. When Alice In Wonderland comes out and replaces Avatar on the IMAX screens due to previous binding agreements, you may have missed your chance. Bravo.</p>
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		<title>By: Don&#8217;t Worry, Be Righteous &#8211; SOTM Series (11) &#171; A Living Alternative Our Missional Pilgrimage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don&#8217;t Worry, Be Righteous &#8211; SOTM Series (11) &#171; A Living Alternative Our Missional Pilgrimage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 18:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
		<link>http://www.missional.ca/2010/01/avatar-review/comment-page-1/#comment-3707</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 02:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey John.  Indeed, I felt the same thing when I left the theatre.  I know it has been cited by some groups, but the criticism hasn&#039;t made mainstream coverage.  Thanks!

Peace,
Jamie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey John.  Indeed, I felt the same thing when I left the theatre.  I know it has been cited by some groups, but the criticism hasn&#8217;t made mainstream coverage.  Thanks!</p>
<p>Peace,<br />
Jamie</p>
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		<title>By: John Lunt</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Lunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 01:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just saw the movie last week.  I thought it was certainly a slap at the military, but I frankly expected some howls that I haven&#039;t heard yet that somehow the natives couldn&#039;t do anything themselves.  They had to have the &quot;great white it hope.&quot;  I am anglo and I thought that was a bit condescending.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just saw the movie last week.  I thought it was certainly a slap at the military, but I frankly expected some howls that I haven&#8217;t heard yet that somehow the natives couldn&#8217;t do anything themselves.  They had to have the &#8220;great white it hope.&#8221;  I am anglo and I thought that was a bit condescending.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie Arpin-Ricci&#8217;s Review of Avatar :: Wayne Cox &#124; Blog &#124; Clay Pot Chronicles</title>
		<link>http://www.missional.ca/2010/01/avatar-review/comment-page-1/#comment-3693</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie Arpin-Ricci&#8217;s Review of Avatar :: Wayne Cox &#124; Blog &#124; Clay Pot Chronicles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 01:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Arpin-Ricci nailed it for me in his recent review of the film:  in discussing the over-the-top evil of the military/corporate bad guys, he writes,  &#8220;it [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jamie Arpin-Ricci</title>
		<link>http://www.missional.ca/2010/01/avatar-review/comment-page-1/#comment-3683</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie Arpin-Ricci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Ian.  Funny you should say that.  When I walked out, I turned to my wife and said &quot;So, did like watching &#039;Dances With Aliens&#039;?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ian.  Funny you should say that.  When I walked out, I turned to my wife and said &#8220;So, did like watching &#8216;Dances With Aliens&#8217;?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>before all these parallels to other movies started coming out i saw the movie and as i walked out of the theatre i thought &quot;well, if you&#039;ve seen Dances with Wolves then you&#039;ve seen that movie&quot;.  i realized much afterward that the ending is completely different between the 2 films though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>before all these parallels to other movies started coming out i saw the movie and as i walked out of the theatre i thought &#8220;well, if you&#8217;ve seen Dances with Wolves then you&#8217;ve seen that movie&#8221;.  i realized much afterward that the ending is completely different between the 2 films though.</p>
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